In this episode, Paul Jay and Col. Lawrence Wilkerson analyze a chilling message from Donald Trump to roughly 800 generals: a straight-up demand for loyalty — “If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future… we know everything about everybody.”
Fall in line or be purged — as Trump lays out a plan to use U.S. armed forces to occupy large American cities labelled “radical left” strongholds.
Paul Jay
Hi, I’m Paul Jay, and welcome to theAnalysis.news. We’re going to be discussing Trump’s speech in front of 800 generals with Larry Wilkerson. We’ll be back in just a few seconds.
So I work with AI all the time, like I assume lots of people these days. I was interested in what my AI agent or whatever would think of Trump’s speech in front of all these generals. I got hold of the transcript, I put it in AI, and my AI didn’t believe it was real.
Now, I’m reading from my AI here. “The document you showed me,” meaning AI, “appears to be fabricated. This contains claims that would be globally significant news. Can you point me to verification sources? This distinction matters critically for your credibility.”
My AI didn’t believe Trump could possibly say the crazy shit this guy just said. Now, I say crazy because I don’t think this actually is so out of where he’s been heading. I’ve been saying, and my guest today, Larry Wilkerson, is one of the few who have also been saying that this is preparation for martial law. This is preparation not to have, at the very least, presidential elections in 2028. If they really look like they’re tanking, they, being the Republicans, maybe they are actually considering not having midterms.
Trump, as we know, publicly stated during the election campaign, my dear Christians—
Donald Trump
Christians get out and vote just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore.Four more years,, you know what? It’ll be fixed.
Paul Jay
Well, he does keep his promises, and this seems to be preparation for that.
Here’s what my AI, when they finally believed this was a legitimate document, highlighted: “Explicit domestic militarization, not just rhetoric, but operationally planning for military deployment in American cities, framed as combating enemies within. A $1 trillion military spending budget, he brags about, but now the threat isn’t external enemies. Now the threat is an explicitly domestic threat. A new phase.” This is the same point, “Typically manufactured external threats like Soviet missiles, weapons of mass destruction. Now the explicit threat is that American citizens are the threat that needs a military response.”
Anyway, to discuss all of this and then make some sense of it is Larry Wilkerson, who now joins us. Larry is a retired colonel in the U.S. Armed Forces. He was the Senior Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, both at DOD and at the Sec State. He is a friend of the show and a friend of mine. Both of us were just talking about, someday, might we be all rounded up in some baseball park somewhere? Thanks for joining us, Larry.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Good to be with you, Paul, even if you are a Canadian.
Paul Jay
I’ve always thought this world, like in Handmaid’s Tale, where you can have a Christian, Nationalist, fascist government in the United States and la la land in Canada. I don’t think that’s what happens. If we get where we’re heading in the U.S., I don’t think it’s long before there are 1,000% tariffs on Canadian goods until Canada matches American politics. Anyway, what was your main takeaway from Trump’s speech?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Well, if you count Carney as a different kind of Canadian leader, I think there may be some very fractious relations in the future, listening to him talk. My take on that meeting was the same take initially that I had on Hegseth’s video, which I watched several times, the one where he essentially read the papers during. I’m very much acquainted with what he wanted to do in the major initiative there because Richard Armitage, then Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, ISA, and Colin Powell, then a Major General and military assistant to the Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, in the first Ronald Reagan administration, wanted to do the same thing.
That is to say, reduce substantially the flag officers, the admiral and general rank officers in the military services because they brought the same argument to Weinberger, “12 million men in World War II, this was the ratio, and we were fighting a global conflict. Now we’ve got this many men and women in the military, and this is how many we’ve got. The ratios are just terrible. We should get rid of a lot.” Weinberger looked at him and said, “Reagan needs the Congress.”
Indeed, he did, and indeed, he got it in his first term. He was one of the most successful first-term presidents in terms of legislative relations ever. He got everything he wanted, including a massive arms buildup. So, Weinberger was smart, politically, you might say, and said, “No, I’m not introducing this anywhere.” So it died. Well, it rose again with Pete Hegseth. Amateur, totally, but probably built for him by others in the Pentagon who are pretty smart and understand how this top-heavy rank structure is hurting us.
But quickly, almost instantly, my positive hopes, wishes were dashed, and they were dashed in the lead up to the meeting, and then the meeting itself, which I had to watch a couple of times. That’s sickening, especially with Trump, to see what was happening and watch it from different angles. Just the stoic look on all 800 or so of those people who were assembled there, I think it was 800. There were a lot of aides out there, too— Captains, lieutenants, that kind of rank— was stunning. This is the president and your Secretary of Defense, boss, talking to you, and you’re sitting there like robots. And I quickly-
Paul Jay
Trump had to comment on it when he first-
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Yup.
Paul Jay
Right at the beginning of his speech, and we’ll play the clips as I talk about them. He actually looks out and he says, boy, I don’t usually come into a room that’s this quiet.”
Donald Trump
I’ve never walked into a room so silent before. This is very— don’t laugh. Don’t laugh. You’re not allowed to do that.
Paul Jay
It was quite overt that they were not very enthusiastic about what was going on.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Almost as if it were practiced. I have to say that there’s an old boys’ network in the military that people who don’t know the military discount to their peril. The old boys’ network, in this case, is generals like Mark Milley and others out there who are still very much listened to by the current crop of flag officers. So, there’s no question in my mind that calls went back and forth, back and forth from PACOM, EUCOM, and AFRICOM, between the commanders and the old boys.
The old boys were probably saying, “Hey, be very circumspect. Don’t show any emotions. Sit there. Don’t look like it’s impacting you at all. Look like you’re attentive. Don’t compromise yourself in that way. It is the Secretary of Defense and the President of the United States,” eventually. But that probably was their advice, and the consults were probably ripe, rich, and all across the globe.
So, that’s part of it, and another part of it is these people were acting circumspect, which military officers tend to do. In this case, with these two clowns, and I use that term willingly and purposefully. These two clowns represent a three-ring circus with Trump in the middle, Hegseth on the left, and Rubio on the right, and everyone knows that. Everyone knows that. Even down in the ranks, there’s a great proportion of the military that knows that, and they are worried.
Paul Jay
Prior to the last election, three senior generals, and we’ll put the newspaper article up, actually warned that if Trump loses the election, they were expecting another attempted coup and an actual split in the military. When I say another attempted coup, that’s because I’m talking about January 6th.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
January 6th, yeah.
Paul Jay
The days leading up to January 6th, which are even more significant, when 10 former secretaries of defense, Milley, and even the Financial Times, overtly warned of a coup in progress. Then it failed, but they went ahead with the craziness on the 6th anyway. These three generals who were warning before the last election were talking about two power centers, two different potential presidents, like real chaos, except that Trump did win the election. So, what’s happening now, there’s no reason to think Trump would not cross all kinds of legal lines, especially when the Supreme Court seems to be siding with most of what he wants to do.
But when you go back to Trump’s speech and the general sitting there and whether they’re going to go along with all this, which it seems to me this is what this was all about. “We’re planning potential martial law. We’re going to train you.” He says this explicitly.
Donald Trump
And I told Pete, we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds four our military, national guard, but military.”
Paul Jay
We’re going to use going into the big cities to train you on how to— he didn’t use the word occupy, but occupy big cities, mostly in the “radical democratic left-controlled cities.” You’re here in this room to listen to us— I’m filling this in— because we’re going to see who’s loyal and who isn’t. If you’re not, and this is a quote, and we’ll play the video, we know everything about you. If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can get up and leave now.
Donald Trump
And I’ll tell you, Pete and General Caine, all of the people that I’ve met that have been lifted up in rank. And we got many of them out of here, too. I’ll be honest with you, didn’t like doing it, but we got many of you out of here because we weren’t satisfied. We know everything about everybody.
Paul Jay
And of course, you’ll be leaving behind your career. This whole thing was an explicit, overt threat. You’re going to go along with this occupation of American cities, and you’re going to forget about posse comitatus and all the legislation that says you’re not supposed to do this, or you get the hell out of the military. Am I misreading this?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
I think you’re reading it in the direst interpretation, but I don’t think you’re necessarily wrong in that direst interpretation. I do think there are some things left. I think I told you in an earlier interview, or maybe just a conversation we were having, the January 6th coup didn’t fail because the system held. It failed because the coup plotters were incompetent. They are not going to make that mistake again. The most vivid element of their incompetence was what’s necessary for any coup in terms of it succeeding is military support. They are the only people in the state authorized to kill people, to have weapons, and the panoply of gear and such to do it.
He started with the militia, and that was very smart because the militia is less apt to object. Its governors and adjutant general might object, as some have, Pritzker in particular, now in Illinois. I think we might be looking at a Fort Sumter event in Illinois with Pritzker because he’s very eloquent and detailed in his condemnation of what-
Paul Jay
What does that mean, a Fort Sumter event?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
When they fired on Fort Sumter, we started the Civil War. State on state and state on federal. Starting with the militia in some ways is smart because it’s not as well-trained, it’s not as dedicated to what Hegseth is talking about, the ethic of the warrior. The ethic of the warrior for these people in the active duty forces is coupled with the ethic of the Constitution and their oath. Not so much so, and I’m not demeaning the militia; I’m just saying that they haven’t been exposed to the training and education that the active forces have.
Paul Jay
When you say militia, you mean the National Guard?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
The National Guard and Reserve Forces in general. They are also very beholden to federal money. People think they belong to the governors. They do in terms of operational direction, but not when they’re federalized. When they’re federalized, they get more money, and when they’re federalized, they are operating for the President of the United States, just like active duty forces, but they don’t have the training, they don’t have the education, they don’t have the background, and such.
So, that’s where he started is using the militia. I’ve talked to them. I’ve talked to them at Moynihan Station in New York. I’ve talked to them at Union Station in Washington. I’ve talked to them on the streets of D.C.. I talked to three or four yesterday, and included in my conversation the D.C. police on the streets in front of the capital. They’re confused. They’re doing a good job. I met one soldier who was from my home state of South Carolina, and he looked strack and squared away. He told me his unit and told me that they were hurting in South Carolina, so they had to borrow from North Carolina.
The Reserves are, in other words, very understrength right now. If we went to war, we wouldn’t have any hospitals, Paul. The Reserve component has the hospitals, the nurses, and the doctors, and there’s almost nothing there. So, Trump’s touting the military and our ability. “The best military in the world, fight Russia, fight China,” whatever, is nonsense, pure nonsense, and he doesn’t care, really.
Paul Jay
Okay. Let me do another thing from Trump’s speech here. It’s essentially, here’s the doctrine or protocol. I’m not sure of the exact word, but he tells the soldiers this term of lethality. “We’re here to kill,” which is what Hegseth says. “We’re here to kill the enemy.” Well, part of this is going to be directed at Americans. Here’s a quote from Trump. He talked about how he’s seen these pictures of demonstrators spitting at soldiers, and they have to just stand there and take it. He says, “No more.” Here’s what he says, “They spit, we hit.”
Donald Trump
They spit— it’s a new thing. The spit we hit.
Paul Jay
So he’s talking about applying this lethality concept against Americans in American cities.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Precisely.
Paul Jay
He’s calling for a militarized police state.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Precisely what he’s doing on the high seas, too, with three boats now.
Paul Jay
Yeah.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Totally against international law and totally against domestic law. He’s using force without any blessing, if you will, by the Congress of the United States, cowards all, and he’s using force totally in violation of international law.
I said yesterday to a policeman downtown in D.C., I said, if you come on a guy on the corner of New York Avenue and he’s selling cocaine, sitting on a carton selling cocaine, and the line down New York Avenue is a thousand long, and you know he’s selling cocaine. He’s selling it and making a profit right there in front of your eyes, and you pull out your service revolver and you shoot him dead. Is that illegal? That is exactly what Trump did on the high seas. That’s what our military did on the high seas.
Paul Jay
So, let’s go back to the beginning. So, 800 generals are all sitting in this big room being threatened with being purged because we know everything about you, which is blackmail, which means Trump is essentially saying, I mean, overtly, it’s not essentially.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
No.
Paul Jay
He’s saying-
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
He’s bragging.
Paul Jay
We have intelligence agencies. We vet you guys to be a general. We vet your personal lives. It’s not like we don’t stop looking at who and what you’re doing, and we’ll use it against you. If you don’t go along with all this, the threat was explicit. He says, “We know everything about you.” So the soldiers are sitting—
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
We retired guys are in the third and fourth echelon, probably for this. They’re going to go after the active guys first, the Reserves and the Guard. Then they’re going to come after us because on alternative media, we are doing damage to them.
Paul Jay
Well, he overtly threatened to go after Milley. Did he actually do anything about it?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
I wouldn’t be surprised that he hadn’t got something going. I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
Paul Jay
So, these guys are sitting there. They know their constitutional oath, and the loyalty is to the constitution, to the country, not to the president. They know that. They understand posse comitatus, which specifically constitutionally restricts domestic military use, except in the most absolutely extreme circumstances. What’s going on in Portland now, sending troops into Portland, and they’re all eating ice cream in the square. There’s nothing going on in Portland. They’re showing video from a year ago to justify it.
They know they’re hearing explicit directives about using cities as training grounds for taking over cities. They know American citizens are now being called enemies from within, which is supposed to give constitutional cover for doing all this. They’re dead quiet. The places where Trump’s expecting applause, he ain’t getting it.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
No.
Paul Jay
Do they have the guts to stand up? Now, when he invited them to get out of the room, if they didn’t like it, nobody stood up and got out. So nobody’s really sticking their neck out yet. What do you think? Because let’s just add one other little wrinkle to this thing. This is the president who has sole authority over nuclear weapons. So, in this atmosphere, is anyone going to say no to this guy?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
That frightens me probably more than anything else that you prefaced your remark with. It really does. I can only add to the argument that I think there’s enough sobriety, although the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff’s remarks, Raising Cain, if you will, didn’t give me a lot of hope in this regard. I thought maybe he was being a mollifying voice in there between the President himself, the Secretary, and the Forces, but I think he’s just a cheerleader now. That’s my impression.
But I think there are at Strategic Command and other places people like Milley who would object and who would not do what they’re told to do if it were an errant order in their view with regard to nuclear weapons. Then you have the other side of the coin, which is that Russia has even more warheads than we do, for example. If there were any untoward action that happened, we’d disappear.
There’s no question in my mind about that. It would be a general nuclear exchange, and we’d disappear, as would the Russians and most of the world, if not the entire world. I hope that’s sobering enough to where people beneath Trump, if he were to go just absolutely insane, even Hegseth would step in and prevent that from happening. That may be a forlorn hope, but I hope not. Then-
Paul Jay
I can’t see… Hegseth saying no to Trump about something?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Well, when it comes to the destruction of the country, he’s a baboon, but he’s got to know what we’re talking about here.
Paul Jay
Oh, you mean if Trump actually ordered some [crosstalk 00:21:00].
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Yeah, if he ordered an attack. Now, not a single nuke or a couple of nukes. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised at all that we don’t let the genie out of the bottle, so to speak, by using a couple or three nuclear weapons in anger against our enemies. Principally, here would be because we already have the motivation to do so and the cheerleader to help us along, Netanyahu in Iran.
That worries me, particularly since I think Iran has made a decision. They’ve said things like what I’m hearing from Tehran University, for example. They’ve decided, and the Ayatollah was the one who decided this, that the fatwa, which I was briefed on by two different Iranian foreign ministers and believed what they told me, “Would you like me,” one of them said in clear English, “to go to the UN Security Council and operationalize? That’s a good term, isn’t it?” He knew I was military. “The fatwa in blood in front of the UN Security Council. We find nuclear weapons anathema to our version of Islam.” That’s what he said.
Now, I hear that the Ayatollah has approved a change to the fatwa. Use of nuclear weapons is an abomination, not possession. That tells me they’re going to build a nuclear weapon. So, look at the circumstances here. We got a crazy man in Jerusalem with nuclear weapons, not a member of the Non-proliferation Treaty, a rampant, rogue nuclear state, if you will, and it is. There’s no other way to look at it, and Iran, perhaps giving them provocation and probably exchanging with them. This is-
Paul Jay
I’ll add another piece to it. The Saudis now have a deal with the Pakistanis.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Absolutely.
Paul Jay
Where essentially, the Saudis now have nuclear weapons.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
I think so. I think MBS set that up years ago when he first got the defense ministry portfolio, and he was stretching his muscles. He went to Islamabad, gave him $20 billion, and said, “If we need anything, nuclear-wise to counter Iran, we’d like $20.”
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
All right.
Paul Jay
So let me back up here a bit, because I personally don’t think there’s a high likelihood Trump’s going to deliberately use nukes. He personally has a lot to lose, and who knows?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
But does he care?
Paul Jay
Well, I think he does. I think he’s all about money in his houses, his women, and so on.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
I did, too, but now that he’s gotten so old that he’s as old as I am, and he’s physically deteriorating before my eyes. I mean, I’m 81. I recognize this kind of deterioration. I recognized it in Biden. They did nothing about Biden. He was a year in dementia. I mean, no question about it.
Paul Jay
But don’t you think that if he really starts losing it, Vance and the Christian Nationalist cabal and others will get rid of Trump, and they’ll have to?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
If they want to do a coup. They won’t do it with the 25th Amendment because they’d lose their jobs. You just don’t do that. That’s the reason they didn’t get rid of Biden. Blinken and Sullivan were happy. They were happy. They were running the government.
Paul Jay
Right.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
You can’t get the cabinet to vote on moving the president out unless he’s lying in front of you, dead.
Paul Jay
Well, I’m sure they have a plan of some sort, but let’s-
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Vance is the plan. You’re right. Vance is the plan.
Paul Jay
Vance is the plan and-
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Peter Thiel’s standing right there behind him with his South African bona fides as a white man who hates anyone of color.
Paul Jay
Yeah. The techno-Christian nationalists combined with the militarists, like Karp from Palantir and the crazy guy from Anduril. I mean, these guys, they’re like idiot savants. They’re living in some crazy, fascistic bubble, metaphysical bubble. They think they’re going to live forever, but they actually do know technology. So it’s a weird jiving.
But let me go back to Trump’s speech, and we’ll talk again about this other stuff. So, what do you think happens? So he has thrown the gauntlet down to Chicago, Illinois, and the governor. He has called the governor names. I mean, he has made such a challenge to Illinois and Chicago that if he doesn’t do something to Chicago, Trump’s going to look weak. So what does… I pronounce his name incorrectly all the time.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Pritzker. Yeah.
Paul Jay
Pritzker. So what does a governor have? The National Guard, in theory, will be federalized. He’s got state police that may or may not be loyal to him. I would assume the state police. Maybe in Chicago, they would be loyal, but you never know in the rest of the state. What does this look like? Do they go in and arrest the governor?
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
You might see something like that, or you might see an attempt at something like that. I think what follows is probably at least inside Illinois, and perhaps in adjoining states. Missouri comes to mind immediately because Missouri is being lost to MAGA as fast as any state in the Union, and it is primarily the ’40s and below that they’re losing. Charlie Kirk was part of this. Charlie Kirk was part of starting this, or they were part of starting Charlie Kirk to be a different Charlie Kirk, the younger people in the Republican Party who detest Israel.
Marjorie Taylor Green is probably a better mouthpiece right now for these younger people in the nation than anyone else in Washington, because she understands what’s happening to her base under 40, and she understands that that’s the future. So, she’s breaking away from this group. Tom Massie has understood it for a long time.
Paul Jay
Can I just add a caveat, at least from me? I don’t know whether you agree or not. The caveat is detest what Israel is doing in Gaza, what Israel is doing in terms of Apartheid. I think a lot of people who agree in principle with what I just said don’t necessarily detest Israel as a state.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
No, it’s what they’re doing there and what we’re allowing them to do. I think their detestation is as much of us, if not more of us, as it is of Israel for doing it, because they understand we’re allowing it to happen. Incredibly, in my view, a lot of these young people understand how much it’s costing us as opposed to what could be done. “Make America Great Again” is not accomplished by making Israel great.
Paul Jay
I want to get back to Illinois and Chicago. So, here’s where I’m heading. If this happens, and it already happened to some extent in L.A., but not to the extent he’s talking about, if he really goes into a full-fledged, essentially, martial law in Chicago, and a federal takeover-
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Good luck on the South Side.
Paul Jay
There’s an answer for that.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
You’ll get fought to, tooth and nail on the South Side, and there’s some pretty-
Paul Jay
I was about to say, I lived in Baltimore for almost 11, 12 years, and most people have guns. It ain’t going to go smoothly in Baltimore, which is maybe why he threatened Baltimore and hasn’t done it. But what I’m saying is millions of people have to hit the streets, millions, because that’s when you might really see splits in the National Guard and in the military. If they have to start facing, “When they spit, we will hit.” Well, if you’re facing a million people in the streets, you’re going to be careful about hitting when they’re spitting. In fact, you may side with those millions of people in the streets. So, in terms of what’s coming, what I’m saying is people had better get organized to hit the streets in massive numbers.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
The question they asked me at the Capitol yesterday, from what I think was a reporter in the audience, “What would you recommend that people do?” I said, “Let me tell you an experience I had at the beginning of the second Iraq war. I was in London, and I saw bobbies horses that couldn’t move. I saw bobbies who were trapped, horses that were panicking. The largest anti-war demonstration in human history, as far as I’m concerned, and many papers pronounced it as such, happened in London. That’s what needs to happen in the United States and every freaking city across this country.”
Paul Jay
I think it can, and I think as much as we go on about what Trump’s planning, and how it’s like Mussolini, and blah, blah, blah. We’re not into this full-fledged police state yet, and there’s still time to push back. So people shouldn’t get paralyzed by what’s happening; quite the contrary.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
I think that’s what Governor Pritzker was intimating in his very cogent remarks that he made about what was happening to his state and his city.
Paul Jay
Now, I do want to add one thing, which I always add, and it needs to be said, and I know you agree with this, but I’m going to say it because it needs to be said. Corporate Democrats, under all the administrations since World War II, helped create this whole situation because they kept representing the interests of Wall Street, the big banks, and they had policies that, under all kinds of liberal rhetoric, actually facilitated the greatest inequality in the history of the country.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
They helped build MAGA.
Paul Jay
They’ve tilled the soil for MAGA.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Yup.
Paul Jay
So, let’s not forget it, and let’s not have illusions about them, because if the MAGA forces are defeated, and all that happens is you get another round of corporate Dems, you’ll just get another MAGA. Maybe it won’t be Trump, but they’ll come back with even more force. So, without illusions about corporate Democrats, millions of people have to stand up to what’s happening.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Yes, and they have to build their own alternative political structure in some way. I don’t know whether you revamp the two existing parties, you build a new party, or whatever. But you’re right, both parties are equally guilty for where we are right now.
Paul Jay
Well, there are some progressives with some motion. You’ve got Mamdani in New York. There are others across the country. There’s something happening there. So, it’s not just hitting the streets. That’s an important point. There needs to be an electoral piece to this; otherwise, you can’t actually change who is in power.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
You can bet your last dollar that Steve Miller and others who are not dumb or very evilly smart know this, and so they will go after these nascent movements in this operation that Trump suggested at the very beginning. They will try to kill these nascent movements at the very beginning, whether it’s New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Portland, wherever. They have a pointed attack planned for the beginning of this to take out these nascent movements before they get time to build.
Paul Jay
Well, if history is any judge, these nascent movements eventually become way more than nascent. We’ve seen some terrible regimes, whether it’s in the Philippines or in Iran. We’ve seen such police state regimes fall when millions of people decided, I can’t take it anymore. So, let’s hope that this is what this moment is bringing. We’ll talk more soon, Larry. Thanks very much.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson
Truly. Take care. Keep Canada safe.
Paul Jay
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Lawrence B. Wilkerson is a retired United States Army Colonel and former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell.